Bill Frelick:

Well, this is not actually supported from any of the information that we have seen.

The expropriation law that you mentioned only came into effect in January, and it is stated that it is for noncompensation for private land that would go into public hands if that land has been unused, if there’s nobody living and working on that land or developing it. And, so far, of course, none of that land has actually been taken.

So there have been homicide rates that are high rates in South Africa. I think it was like 13,000 in 2023, but only single digits were farmers that were killed. Now, you don’t want anyone to be killed, and I don’t want to disparage any one person’s story, but we don’t have the phenomenon of people fleeing the country, as we do with refugees all over the world.

There are about 38 million refugees in the world who, by definition, are people who have crossed an international border because they’re fleeing persecution, they’re fleeing war, they’re fleeing conflict, and there are no Afrikaner refugee camps. The U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees didn’t refer any South Africans of any background, of any race, of any language for settlement in the last year.

So this is something really new and different from anything we have seen.